Trump officials say the secret group chat was not classified, but it will not give the reporter permission to publish information

Senior intelligence officials from the Trump regime, including the director of the CIA John Ratcliffe and the director of National Intelligence Tolsi Gabbard, appeared in front of the legislators on Tuesday, where they were asked about the chat group chat. It included by mistake Editor -in -chief of Atlantic magazine. The Big Takeway: The officials insisted that no of the information they discussed, but she refused to share the information discussed and when asked whether the Atlantic Ocean editor could share it with the public, they will not give the green light to do so as well.

Ratcliffe and Gabard were witnessing Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, to attend a session that was set a long time before the story erupted in the Atlantic Ocean on Monday. Ratcliffe and Gabbard were only officials in a large group chat discussing plans to bomb the Houthi rebels in Yemen, a conversation that included others such as Defense Minister Beit Higseth, Vice President JD Vance, and National Security Adviser Mike Waltz. It seems that Waltz added the Atlantic Editor Jeffrey Goldberg by mistake to chat, according to the reporter’s reports.

The listening session was not planned with the intention of discussing the story of the Atlantic Ocean bomb, but the committee’s democratic members asked their questions naturally to this topic. One of the main questions was the discussion whether there was secret information discussed in the group chat. Ratcliffe continued to suggest not to classify the information, but the more you speak, the more it became clear, he was making his answer carefully enough to say that he did not share any intelligence classified as a chat. Gabbard tried to exceed the year more than Ratcliffe, and often refuses to answer basic questions under the pretext that the investigation is continuing.

Senator Mark Warner of Virginia was the first to ask Gabbard if she was involved in the group chat and after the bats that she would not answer.

“So you refuse to admit whether you are in this group chat?” Warner asked.

“Senate Member, I will not go into the details,” Gabbard He said.

“Why will you not enter the details? Is this … is this everything classified?” Warner fired again.

“This is currently being reviewed by the National Security Council,” Gabbard said.

“Because it is classified everything? If it is not classified, the text is now shared,” Warner said during the hot stock.

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Democratic Senator Reed also asked Rod Island Gabbard if it was abroad at any time during group chat discussions. Gabbard said she did not refuse to answer a question from Reed about whether she was using an official phone from the government or her personal device.

“I will not talk about this because it is under review by the National Security Council,” Gabbard said. “Once this review is completed, I am sure we will share the results with the committee.”

This response was confusing Red, who asked why you could not answer such a simple question.

“The National Security Council reviews all aspects of how this happens, and how the journalist was unintentionally added to the group chat, and what happened in that chat in all fields,” Gabbard said.

It was also discussed in the hearing that one of the people in the chat, the senior consultant and the unofficial foreign minister, Steve Witkeov, was in Moscow A meeting with Vladimir Putin While the chat was speaking.

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Democratic Senators such as Red, Warner, and Pinte from Colorado made a dramatic show on Tuesday in the face of stone by Gabbard. but All three men He voted in favor of Trump’s candidate for naval Secretary John Villan on Monday, even after the story of the Atlantic Ocean erupted. Villan has no military experience and highly donated President Trump. But they all voted to confirm it, although they were previously talking about the suspension of the non -qualified candidates for Trump.

Gabbard was also asked by Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona about what she considers classified information, and Gabbard will not give a direct answer. “The deliberations about whether we should strike a strike on another country or not, are you thinking about that classified information, Mrs. Gabbar?” Kelly asked.

“Information has not been classified,” Gabbard He said. Kelly explained that he was not even talking about the sign chat group specifically, but instead he was looking for an answer in general about whether the discussion should be considered about the decision to bomb another country classified. Gabbard refused to provide an answer directly, saying, “There are other factors that determine this classification.”

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Later on the hearing, Senator Warner asked Virginia about the reason not only to share the information described because they were not insisting that it was not classified.

Warner said: “The idea, somehow, is not classified from this but you cannot talk about it here … You cannot get it in both directions,” Warner said.

This desire to obtain it in both directions can represent some serious problems if the most sensitive parts of their chat are finally released. Goldberg spoke to the Bulwark news port on Tuesday, where he said he was considering issuing the texts that entered the war plans. The editor decided not to include many of these details in his article because he was trying to protect national security. But if the National Intelligence Director does not say anything in that group chat, there is no reason to block it.

Democratic Senator Ron Widen of Oregon said it appears to be crimes committed and called for resignation Among the senior officials, “starting with the National Security Adviser and the Minister of Defense.”

But it is not clear that the Minister of Defense will face any real consequences. Higseth was asked about the scandal on Monday and insisted on “no one was sending plans for war,” a demand that contradict Goldberg’s reports. Defense Minister Goldberg referred to “a very deceptive and dispersed journalist called, and he has made a profession in gathering deception over and over again.”

The “deception” has claimed Higseth that Goldberg was wandering on many things that have proven accurate, including Trump’s relations with Russia, and the fact that he said that there are “great people on both sides” Trump Chief of Staff John Kelly.

“So this is the man who is the pedals in the garbage. That’s what he does,” Higseth He said About Goldberg Monday.

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For his part, Trump defended his officials, and they inform NBC News In a telephone interview on Tuesday that the position of his national security advisor was safe, at least at the present time. Trump said, “Michael Waltz has learned a lesson, a good man,” Trump said.

Meanwhile, David France, the New York Times opinion writer, former army officer and Jag’s lawyer I published an article calling for the immediate resignation of Higseth. “There is no living officer alive from a security breach like this,” he wrote. “This usually leads to immediate consequences (relieving driving, for example), followed by a comprehensive investigation, and perhaps criminal concerns.”